![]() On AMD's performance claims, it looks as though TR 5000 Pro will further improve upon its current grasp on leading-edge workstation solutions, especially with the generational increase that Zen 3 brings in overall IPC performance when compared to Zen 2 (TR 3000 Pro). At the time of writing, AMD hasn't provided information as to when we can expect TR 5000 Pro WX to hit the market or when the latest Lenovo ThinkStation P620 workstation will be launched or announced. This is similar to its launch of the previous TR 3000 Pro processors. Us "just cos we want it" buyers don't support TR existence sadly, as such I think it's existence right now is lifelined buy those OEMs/ODMs.SummaryAMD is launching its Ryzen Threadripper 5000 Pro series with Lenovo via the ThinkStation P620 workstations. TR started dying as soon as it only became viable from within OEMs/ODMs. This is why AMD shifted to partnering with larger OEMs/ODMs and going with designed product solutions because you can cut out otherwise perfectly viable hardware configuration options as this product family is only TR and that's "all we wanted to show you", you being the customer, you also being a corporate buyer that is more interested in platform support and business warranty than saving 10%-20% going with Ryzen over TR. When these customers are all serviced adequately by a 5950X then it creates a problem for the entire product family as the majority of sales no longer exist. The issue there is the majority of HEDT buyers are at the lower end and only require more cores without the other platform benefits or features. I'd rather have 8 cores quad channel ram than 16 cores dual channel. ![]() There's different ways to provide HEDT-like features and I have to say AMD's choice of consumer direction is not the one I'd choose. HEDT has been so weird because of products like the 5950X which makes a large portion of the HEDT market pointless as they can now be service adequately on the consumer platform. For a long time servers were being sold with Zen2 EPYC after Zen3 EPYC was out, due to supply and also product lifecycle generations. I don't think they will skip for TR, unless chip supply changes Zen4 demand on consumer desktop and EPYC will be far too high so having a high end workstation option on a different fabrication process would be a nice product that AMD could actually service the market with that want it. TR Pro I see more equivalent to Intel's workstation offerings than traditional HEDT. Rumours of a HEDT offering based off Sapphire Rapids might change that. Intel seems to have given up for now so maybe that could be a factor why AMD aren't playing either. HEDT space of recent years has been a bit odd. Who knows, maybe they skipped a generation and will resume with Zen 4? Or do they consider the space between high end consumer and low end TR Pro not worth filling any more? Zen 3 consumer to TR launch: 16 months so far and Zen 4 is round the corner. Presuming you mean non-Pro TR, are you sure about that? Let's hope that Intel brings something relevant with Sapphire Rapids in order to shake the market a little bit. Once again AMD is standing their grounds in the HEDT/Workstation area, which is kinda cumbersome since they aren't bringing much to the table other than an update for an microarch that's already over an year old, without even including their 3d-cache stuff since there's no need to, given that they have basically no competition when it comes to both performance and price in that area. ![]() In the case of clockspeeds, turbo frequencies have been increased across the entire stack to 4.5 GHz, a 200 MHz increase over the previous TR 3000 Pro chips. Updating Threadripper Pro to use the Zen 3 architecture yields multiple benefits, including a notable improvement in IPC and frequency as compared to its previous Zen 2 microarchitecture. ![]() As with the EPYC processors these parts are derived from, AMD is using a combination of Zen 3 chiplets (CCDs) built on TSMC's 7nm process, as well as its familiar I/O die which is built on Global Foundries' 12 nm process. Coming from the last-generation Threadripper Pro 3000 platform, the most significant change within the Ryzen TR 5000 Pro series is that its cores are now based on AMD's highly successful and performance-focused Zen 3 architecture, replacing the older Zen 2 cores used in the original TR Pro 3000. ![]()
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